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crowdfunding for f-droid Hubzilla-App

Sat, 18 Jan 2020 06:16:34 +0100 last edited: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 04:55:33 +0100

What are the requirements for deployment of f-droid Hubzilla-App? I would to start a crowdfunding campaign for development of f-droid Hubzilla-App. I also need financial framework for this Projekt. Can you tell me the approximate amount spent for #FDroidHubzillaApp -Project?
For my self is this job - the amount spent for #FDroidHubzillaApp -Project to tried to calculate is seem like an exercise in squaring a circle. I am no Hubzilla developer. I am no App-developer. I cann't estimate how much effort it. And I must provide one financial framework for #FDroidHubzillaApp freelancer. I hope, you !Zotlabs|Hubzilla Development can help me

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#HubzillaApp #Nomad

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M. Dent

Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:54:38 +0100 last edited: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:54:18 +0100

I kludged together a front-end using the THUNKABLE app creator that works surprisingly well.

THUNKABLE is extensible enough that it appears it should be quite possible to do more in the app rather than just using it as a web front end. But for the purpose, it works quite well - and the fees for THUNKABLE are extremely reasonable. Might want to check it out.

Thunkable apps are supposed to work in both IOS and in Android (I only tested Android) - you can download the APK for your app, so it should be uploadable to FDROID. I tried to determine any "gotcha's" with dependencies or injected tracking and wasn't able to find any - doesn't mean they aren't there - I didn't look super hard - but it seems to be an honest attempt at an app building platform.

https://thunkable.com/#/

poVoq

Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:10:04 +0100

@M. Dent Fdroid doesn't allow apk uploads I think. They need to be reproducable builds on their server infrastructure.

About the App. Are we taking about a client app? What is exactly the problem with Nomad? There are also a few other Fediverse/twitter clients that work with Hubzilla via the twitter api 1.1 addon (with reduced functionality of course).

Or are you talking about a mobile server to get some sort of hybrid p2p working? You mentioned something line that in your other post.

neue medienordnung plus

Wed, 22 Jan 2020 03:20:11 +0100

Or are you talking about a mobile server to get some sort of hybrid p2p working?

Yes, with mobile server #HubzillaApp I'd like provide one central component for decentral p2p network.

poVoq

Wed, 22 Jan 2020 11:27:10 +0100

@neue medienordnung plus developing such a hybrid app would be a bigger undertaking and probably require some changes to the core workings of Hubzilla as well. But it is true that the Zot protocol with its cloning functionality might be more suitable for something like that. Matrix.org has announced that they will present a prototype of a similar hybrid p2p on FOSSDEM next week.

Michael Bischoff

Wed, 22 Jan 2020 20:04:32 +0100

@M. Dent thx for the hint, I'll take a look at thunkable

The Path to Peer-to-Peer Matrix: In which we throw away DNS and run Matrix clientside over libp2p and friends

neue medienordnung plus

Thu, 23 Jan 2020 04:58:24 +0100 last edited: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 05:03:35 +0100

Matrix is an open source project run by the non-profit Matrix.org Foundation dedicated to building an open protocol and communication network for decentralised, encrypted communication - providing a viable open alternative to WhatsApp, Slack, Discord an other proprietary communication silos. In this talk we will show of the work we've been doing over the last year to shift Matrix from being a decentralised-server architecture to a fully decentralised-client p2p architecture, through running clientside homeservers and experimenting with libp2p and friends as a p2p transport. We'll also show the route we'll be following over the year to go from proof-of-concept to the live Matrix network.

Track: Decentralized Internet and Privacy devroom

more -> https://fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/dip_p2p_matrix/

#fossdem #p2p #similaHybridP2p #ZotProtocol #Zot #thunkable #privacy #DecentralizedInternet

HTTPS p2p DNS DHT

M. Dent

Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:21:05 +0100 last edited: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 02:20:32 +0100

@poVoq

Fdroid doesn't allow apk uploads I think. They need to be reproducable builds on their server infrastructure.

Ah, i see... I haven't looked at their requirements. Sorry for any confusion.

Navigation in Hubzilla und in Fediverse insgesamt. Kurzeinführung

neue medienordnung plus

Tue, 27 Nov 2018 07:07:01 +0100 last edited: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 02:20:22 +0100

Ich habe versucht eine übersichtliche Kurzeinführung zu erstellen
https://realtime.fyi/articles/realtimefyi/navigation-in-hubzilla-und-in-fediverse-insgesamt

#Datenwolke #Fediverse #Hubzilla #Kommunikation #Verzeichnisbaum #Privacy #Privatsphäre !Deutschsprachige Nutzer

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neue medienordnung plus

Mon, 18 Feb 2019 18:23:37 +0100 last edited: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 06:17:38 +0100

wenn wenn sich gefühlt die Anzahl der Hash-Tags der Wortanzahl im eigentlichen Content nähert, leidet die Lesbarkeit.

Dies ist mir bewusst. Für mich ist es eine Herausforderung eine ausgewogene Balance zwischen der Lesbarkeit des Textes und schneller Verschlagwortung dieses Textes, damit der Text mit Hashtags auffindbar ist, zu finden. Man kann die Hashtags separat am Textende zusammenfassen, dies verursacht aber einen erheblichen zusätzlichen Aufwand und vergrößert den Artikel unnötig.

Strukturierte Kommunikation kann effizient und zielführend sein - ein Beispiel ist die Kommunikation in der Politik - die ist aber auch immer wieder schwerfällig und anstrengend - Satzungen, Protokolle, Ordnungen, Gesetze, ... Mit Hashtags angereicherte Texte sind dank Hashtags strukturiert, um Suchvorgänge effizienter zu machen - mit offensichtlichen Nebenwirkungen wie schlechtere Lesbarkeit.